Chris Hayes starts the podcast with a tweet he came across. It said that Greece is in a crisis because of the wildfires and he said that people even jumped in the ocean trying to save themselves. Another journalist saw the tweet and accused media of not informing the public on TV. Hayes makes a statement that climate change isn’t something people can see and rather than denying global warming, we should decrease the release of carbon, collectively. There have been a lot of plane crashes in the past and we made a good job in clearing the air. Ever since then, statistically, planes rarely get into accidents.
Andrew Revkin comes on to speak about his past experiences with journalism and interviews. This is the first time he has sat down with a psychologist and a scientist. He was told that information doesn’t really matter, what matters is cultural cognition. If it doesn’t inconvenience people, they won’t try to make a difference. A great example to this is energy. Americans have air conditioning in every room and I can say for a fact that Europeans don’t rely on it, though they do have heaters at the very least.
Hayes responds with a theory of why people do not feel motivated to keep working on saving the Earth and uses an elevator button as an example. It lights up to indicate that you’ve successfully pressed the button. With climate change there isn’t any progress that can be seen immediately so the population loses hope. As more and more wildfires come about, we need to act faster. Stated by scientists and journalists, there’s no way we can solve this, but we can recover.
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